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 IT'S HARD! I was thinking about this the other day because I think someone somewhere mentioned something about Kouyou's characterization being so different in fics to what is presented in canon, except it also isn't. I can see where that interpretation comes from, and it makes me think about why she's so hard to write, and it isn't just because she doesn't have a lot of screen time. 

She's a very contradictory character! She shuns love and says things that imply that people can't leave the darkness. She tries to keep Kyouka in the Mafia, but the way she does it is to frame it as though she cares about her in a sort-of-motherly way if your mother is abusive and manipulative. But then she also recognizes that the ADA is a better case for Kyouka and lets her go, and seemingly accepts the transition. She is pretty (deadly) calm and refined in a lot of scenes, but in the scenes with Kyouka she is vicious and more openly emotional. She's really selfish, almost to an extreme, until the point where she's not. She comes across as older than she is -- she's actually pretty young when you think about it. The flashback of her trying to escape shows how young and vulnerable she used to be when she was in the Mafia. 

So, it becomes hard to write her. Should she be written with an emphasis on the motherly part that cares for other people? But that comes from selfishness, as we've seen with Kyouka. She's a terribly lonely person who lost a lot and doesn't want to let go of what she has. So should the focus be on her cruelty? Even with her cruelty, she can also be kind. I do think she genuinely cares about Kyouka and from brief glimpses it seems that she cares about Chuuya (although we don't know exactly how she acted around him when he was younger except for one snippet from Fifteen.) How much calmness and refinement and deadliness should there be, and how and when should the vulnerabilities and emotional breaks be shown? How old should she act and how much of the young girl who is lonely at heart should come through? Because she was definitely given a lot of responsibility before she was old and she, like everyone else, had to become an adult way before she was actually one. 

And then there is also the problem of a lack of screen time. 

I've written her more often lately. She is actually one of the harder characters to write, and I think only a handful of Kouyou's I've read have felt like they could be her. She's a really fascinating character, but like many of the fascinating BSD characters doesn't appear a lot. That being said, it gives us a lot to explore about her, and I'm kind of interested in doing that even if it's not in a fic that focuses on her (because that kind of fic sounds terrifying -- and I actually did write one recently and it was in fact terrifying to write). I would just have to figure out who I think she is first. 
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So I've been commissioned to write a fic where Chuuya and Dazai talk about Oda and friendship in general, and I love the idea, which got me thinking -- I'm a bit shocked I've never written it before. 

I've written Dazai and Chuuya talking about why Dazai left the Mafia, and I've written Oda talking to Chuuya, but not Chuuya and Dazai having a conversation about what the friendship meant. 

In the fandom I noticed there is a tendency for some people to pit Chuuya and Oda against each other in terms of importance to Dazai, and after a while writing about these people and learning more about them I've come to the interpretation that while they were both important to Dazai, Odasaku was more emotionally important, while Chuuya was the first person who showed trust in Dazai in terms of trusting Dazai with his life. Chuuya is probably one of the few people who works extremely well with Dazai -- however, I don't think they were what you could call friends. I think they didn't know what to do with each other. 

I also think, ironically, Dazai has had deeper/more meaningful friendships than Chuuya has. Chuuya's "friends" in the Sheep were using him, and the friends (I'm not sure if they were from the Sheep or not) in the Mafia died. The people he associates with in the Mafia now are kind of on a separate level to him, and quite a few of them want to hold people at arm's length as well. I don't think there's anyone he would deeply trust his emotions to. In fact, I don't think he trusted Dazai with his emotions, either. While he's more open with his emotions and thoughts than a lot of the Mafia characters, I think there's a big part of him that wouldn't want to rely on any of them when he truly needs it, either because he's been taught that people can only depend on themselves or because he isn't sure how they'd react. A lot of the deeper issues he might have about his humanity and Corruption are probably things he wouldn't trust anyone with, except maybe Dazai. Maybe.

After all, Dazai only knows about things because of circumstances Chuuya didn't really anticipate him being part of. 

So I think the concept of love and a real friendship is a bit foreign to Chuuya, who's always had to be the stronger person in his relationships because people were depending on him for something. The only exception to that was Dazai, because they were pretty evenly matched and made up for each others' deficits. But Dazai did manage to find that in Odasaku, which is why he took his words so much to heart. I think whatever conversation they'd have about it would be really insightful to Chuuya, and would teach him not only about friendships but give him a different perspective on the Dazai that he thought he knew back then, and probably would make it easier to reconcile that with who Dazai is trying to be now. 

And it will probably make him long for that sort of thing even more because he realizes he's never had it. 
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Yesterday someone sent me a tweet that caught my interest (they sent the image and I can't link it because I think it was deleted) which said:
"remember when dazai threatened to rip a 13 y/o childs heart out and then nearly slit his throat for something that wasnt his fault in th first place and chuuya encouraged him
i know Q was a little shit and all but he's still a child"

That is all true, but something about that tweet rubs me the wrong way in terms of how it assumes that Dazai and Chuuya should know better because Q is a child. But here's the thing: they don't. That doesn't make it okay, but it also doesn't make them terrible people for not knowing that the world works in terms of "young people shouldn't be considered unforgivable/completely at fault for their actions because they're just children."

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(Let's try this again): On tumblr a while back I was asked what I found compelling about Dazai and Chuuya as characters and as partners. So I'm crossposting the post here, and I'll probably be crossposting more meta here as I figure out what I want to put on this journal. So, here's my long thoughts on Dazai, Chuuya, and skk:

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 I put this on Tumblr but I'll put it here too:

Me whenever someone says Dazai’s true character was his Mafia character: Kay but then why did Oda even think that Dazai could succeed on the side of saving people, given that Oda knew him really well. Also Dazai was an emo teenager at that age and half the stuff he said he’d probably cringe at now. Darker =\= true character. I imagine Dazai put on a lot of masks back then, too, and either way it’s a really bleak look at a series about redemption to think that one of the characters who’s tried to become a good man hasn’t changed a bit and his true nature is to always be a hopeless man who craves death and violence.
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There's a lot of people on Twitter who are really adamant that Dazai isn't happy in the ADA and would be happier in the Port Mafia because he's still suicidal in the ADA. Like really adamant. Like "suck it people who support ADA Dazai" adamant. Which is why I'm posting my opinion here!

While I think Mafia!Dazai and Mafia Boss Dazai are pretty cool in their own right, my personal opinion is that Dazai is actually happier in the ADA. That was the take-away I had from reading the manga, watching the anime, and seeing that one of the BSD creators (I forget who said this) drew Dazai with dull eyes whenever he was associating with the Mafia, and more shining eyes (that might not be the right word; life-like eyes?) when he isn't with them.

My opinion is that I think Dazai is in a better mental place and is happier in the ADA than he was in the Mafia. While he is really, really well suited to the Mafia and I don't doubt he would make a great PM Boss, I feel like the Mafia was bad for him. Oda saw this, which is why Oda told him to leave. "Maybe you'll feel a bit better." And I think, for the most part, that has held true.

Yes, Dazai still makes suicide attempts. I don't think he's suicidal. None of the ADA!Dazai suicide attempts has ever felt serious. In fact, they seem like they are made to fail--the mushrooms, the floating around in the river thing (you would tie something heavy to yourself if you were trying to drown), and barrel thing (wtf Dazai?). They're used for comedic effect.

The one time suicidal!Dazai gave me chills, and where I actually felt scared for him, was during the Dark Era. That scene where the guy holds a gun to his head, and Oda tries to get Dazai to step back, but Dazai moves forward instead, begging the man to pull the trigger. He said afterwards that he knew the man wouldn't be able to hit his target, but that was the only time I felt like Dazai hoped that he was wrong and that the man would actually be able to shoot and kill him.

So why does Dazai still attempt suicide in the ADA and why is he so vocal about it? My personal interpretation, based on the nature of his attempts in the ADA and how he acts in the ADA vs how he acted in the PM, is that he's taken on being suicidal as a personality trait. Dazai has wanted death for a long time. It's become part of him. There is probably a part of him that still genuinely does want it, and that probably surfaces from time to time, not because he's unhappy but because past trauma and depression don't ever completely go away. But I think that for the most part, Dazai uses that persona to throw people off. He uses it to convince those at the PM that he hasn't changed, and he uses it so that his enemies don't underestimate him.

No one at the ADA seems especially worried, but they do seem like the type to worry if there was something to be worried about. Kunikida and Dazai have both confronted Atsushi (who is the other person in the ADA that seems to struggle with suicidal thoughts) about his past trauma and how he handles it. They don't stand idly by if something is wrong. It makes me think that at some point, Dazai's suicidal nature has come up for the ADA, and it has been discussed, and ultimately something happened that gave them a reason not to worry about it at this point in time.

That's all opinion, and that's all my own interpretation of what's been presented so far about Dazai. It would be really interesting to see Dazai going back to the Mafia after all of this, but I also feel like it is interesting to see Dazai struggle to fit his past in with his present of trying to be (and remain) a good man. It's an ongoing struggle, and I don't think it makes him any less complex or interesting to stay on the side of the ADA.

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